howoldisearth
How Old Is The Earth?
Whether you are a Young-earth creationist or an old-earth creationist, most
will agree that the earth appears to be very old. Let us look at the arguments
and evidence for Young-earth creationists.
The Appearance of Age
In 1857 Phillip Gosse wrote Omphalos which means "belly button" in Greek.
This was at the time when geologists were saying the earth is very old. He
believed that God created the earth to look old. It would have the appearance
of age. Adam would have been created as an adult with a belly button. Adult
trees would have tree rings.
Some believe that God created all these fossil bones of animals that never
really lived in order to test our faith in God. Some believe that scientists
are putting these fossil bones together wrong and create monster dinosaurs
that never really existed. Others say that Satan created these fossils in
order to deceive us.
Are the fossils we find in the ground from real animals or are they fake
created by God to test us? Most in the young-earth movement would say that
fossils are of real animals which Noahs flood destroyed. Most dinosaurs
were buried and turned into fossils as a result of Noahs flood.
Is the "Appearance of Age Theory" valid? Only if you make God a deceiver.
Why would God go to all this trouble to deceive us? It would be better to
blame it on Satan, but he is not given the power to create the world unless
one believes in gnosticism.
First of all, in Genesis 1: 11 the Hebrew word ds' means young budding plants,
not full grown plants or trees (Westermann, 124). Generally ds' describes
budding young plants of which there are two kinds, plants that are small,
and trees which are large. So Genesis 1:11 clearly indicates that there was
no appearance of full grown plants and trees.
Now let us look at the supposed evidence of a young earth.
Modern Spores In Grand Canyon Layers!
Clifford Burdick claimed to find Precambrian pollen in ancient layers from
the Grand Canyon. Other testing was done that showed there was no pollen.
The samples had been contaminated by modern pollen (Chadwick 1981, 7).
If most of the Grand Canyon was formed all at once during Noahs flood,
there should be abundant pollen spores in all of the layers, but this is
not the case. More information on the Grand Canyon see
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/icr-science.html.
Trilobite in Human Sandal Print?
In 1986 William Meister found a trilobite near Antelope Springs, Utah. When
he opened the slab he saw an oblong shape that he thought was a human sandal
print. Glen Kuban states, "Upon closer inspection the overall shape is seen
to consist of a spall pattern in a concretion-like slab, similar to others
in the area. There is no evidence that it was ever part of a striding sequence,
nor evidence that it was ever on an exposed bedding plane" (See his website
at
http://members.aol.com/paluxy2/meister.htm).
Is the Sun Shrinking?
Certain data showed that the sun was shrinking. Extrapolations were made
back in time to show that the sun would be touching the earth 20 million
years ago (Fischer 1996, 77). However, in 1984 Frohlich and Eddy reported
the sun was increasing at a linear rate of eight feet per hour. New data
demonstrates that the sun contracts and enlarges in a 80 year cycle (Van
Till, Young, & Menninga 1988, 53). Before the discovery of nuclear fusion
it was thought the sun burned because of gravitational contraction. Even
today some young-earth creationists still hold to these false theories and
old data (Taylor 1995, 16). For more information see website
http://www.orisol.com/chap04.html.
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Did Dinosaurs & Man Live Together?
Roland T. Bird in a 1939 article in Natural History (43:5.254-61) mentioned
giant carved human footprints from Glen Rose, Texas. Clifford Burdick refusing
to believe the prints were carved, searched and located the prints in 1945.
In 1961 pictures of these tracks appeared in The Genesis Flood. In 1970 Stanley
Taylor with a film crew dammed up the Paluxy River to produce the film Footprints
in Stone which claimed dinosaur and human footprints are found together.
When these tracks were reexamined very closely by Glen Kuban and other experts,
they were found to be dinosaur tracks not human footprints. Erosion and back
fill made some of them look human. When the Taylor trail was followed the
prints turned into clear dinosaur tracks. On other prints claw marks were
seen (See his website at
http://members.aol.com/paluxy2/paluxy.htm).
Because of this evidence the film Footprints in Stone was removed from
circulation. Dr. John Morris wrote Impact article 151 (1986) stating "none
of the four tails at the Taylor site can be today regarded as unquestionably
human."
Other prehistoric animals like mastodons were clearly around at the same
time as man because arrows, spears and knife marks have been found on the
bones, but none of this has been found with dinosaur bones.
There has been much false information given out by Carl Baugh. The human
print he bought is clearly a carving. The supposed wood is iron oxide. The
supposed human finger is a burrow filling. The large skeleton is just 200-300
years old and not part of the Cretaceous layer. The hammer in the rock is
a 19th century miners hammer. His dinosaur claws are actually crocodile
teeth. There are no clear human footprints in the Paluxy River except the
ones that were carved which are anatomically wrong. Even Answers In Genesis
questioned Carl Baugh's views (See web page at
http://members.aol.com/paluxy2/whatbau.htm)
For more information see Creation/Evolution 15,&17 published by NCSE
(See their website at
http://www.natcenscied.org/)
Lock Ness Monster?
The most famous picture taken of the Lock Ness monster was in 1934. It has
later been revealed that this picture is a fake, staged by a filmmaker named
Marmaduke Arundel Wetherell (Ellis, 22). See
http://urbanlegends.com/animals/loch.ness.monster/nessie_photo_hoax_2.html
There have been other sightings and carcasses that have been mistaken for
sea monsters or dinosaurs. In ancient times even up to the eighteenth century
people believed in mermaids, but what they were really seeing were Manatees
whose face looks human.
Plesiosaur Found?
Some think that a plesiosaur was caught in the net of a Japanese fishing
boat in 1977. While the pictures look impressive, the scientific data points
to a decaying basking shark. The carcass was 32 feet long and weighed about
4,000 pounds. Ellis states, "Before the carcass was discarded, one of the
crewmen lopped off a piece of a fin, which contained horny fibers (ceratorichia)
that characterized the elasmobranchs, and these were later identified as
those of Cetorhinus maximus" which is the scientific name for the basking
shark (Ellis, 69).
Alwyne Wheeler of the British Museum of Natural History agrees that this
was a basking shark. He states, "Sharks are cartilaginous fish. When they
start to decompose after death, the heads and gills are the first to drop
from the bodyÖ.fishermen have been foiled by the similarity of shark
remains to a plesiosaur" (Ellis, 68-9).
Dr. Petit showed how the soft tissues of a basking shark decompose into the
shape of a plesiosaur and seem to be hairy. "In the selachians the fibers
of the surface muscles break up into whiskers when the skin rots" and seems
to by hairy like stiff fur (Heuvelmans 1968, 135).
Glen J. Kuban has written an excellent article entitled Sea-monster or Shark?
An Analysis of a Supposed Plesiosaur Carcass Netted in 1977 (Reports May/June
1997).He reveals that the results of the gross amino acid analysis of the
fin showed it to be a close match to the basking shark (p.22; for more
information visit his web site at
http://members.aol.com/paluxy2/plesios.htm).
Living Mussel Dates 2,000 Yrs. Old by Carbon 14
Carbon 14 dating is very accurate when used properly. The mussel gets it
carbon from the limestone in the water and sediments which are low in carbon
14 while a tree gets fresh carbon from the atmosphere. Therefore the mussel
will show an artificially older date (Berra 1990, 131).
Meteoric Dust From Space!
Hans Patterson in 1960 estimated that 14 million tons of dust fall to the
earth each year. This would put 54 feet of dust on the moon. However, when
satellites were sent up for exact measurements of meteoric dust, they found
a much smaller amount of about 16,000 tons of dust per year. The findings
from Surveyor 3 which collected meteoric dust for 31 months agree. "The
accumulation of meteoric dust on the moon would contribute a layer less than
one centimeter thick in four billion years (Van Till, Young, & Menninga
1988, 71). For more information see
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-age-of-earth.html#dust.
Earths Decaying Magnetic Field!
Dr. Thomas Barnes wrongly extrapolated back the decay of the earths
magnetic field to show the earth is only 20,000 years old (Fischer 1996,
78). The major problem is that the overwhelming evidence shows that there
has been many reversals of the earths magnetic field. Morris admits
this (p.77), but tries to resurrect Barnes theory through "Surge Tectonics"
during the flood (Hayward 1985, 137). For more information click here
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/magfields.html. Also for more information
about magnetic stripes see
http://pubs.usgs.gov/publications/text/stripes.html
Wheres All the Salt?
According to Morris the ocean could not be any older than 62 million years
because of the salt intake (p.87), yet aluminum shows the earth to be only
100 years old. First of all, the residence time of elements in the ocean
does not equal the age of the earth (Van Till, 86). Secondly, he ignores
other ways in which salt is removed from the ocean, and up to date information
on ocean science (Ibid., 88). For more information see
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-age-of-earth.html#ocean.
The Speed of Light!
Barry Setterfield wrongly extrapolated that the speed of light is slowing
down from incorrect values given to Roemer and Bradley (Hayward 1985, 141).
If the right data was used he could have said the speed of light is increasing.
Early data was based on primitive methods of measurement.
The idea that God created star light enroute seems to imply a deceptive God.
An exploding star is not really exploding, it is just the light God created
to fool you. I dont think so! The other idea that the stars are very
close is also absurd. Simple geometric measuring by parallax shows the stars
are very far away, some 150,000 light years. For more detailed information
see
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/c-decay.html.
Mt. Saint Helens
The rapid burial and pile up of sediments by the volcanic explosion of Mt.
St. Helens is seen as a show case for young-earth creation. If we dug down
through this layer, would we find lots of animal tracks, nests with eggs
and young in the middle? Yet this is supposedly happened during the flood.
There is also not the different colors and kinds of rocks in the Mt. St.
Helens sediments as there are at the Grand Canyon which indicate different
depositional environments (see also Ross 1994, 110; See Hugh Ross' website
at www.reasons.org/) Also For more
detailed information see
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/mtsthelens.html.
Where Did All the Coal Layers Come From?
The Pennsylvania Period is over 4,000 feet thick in Pennsylvania which
contains many layers of sandstone, shale, and beds of coal, which,
although they make up a relatively small part of the Pennsylvanian, are
one of the most important economic resources of that state.
A world-wide flood would not produce the layering we see in the rocks.
A flood mixes things, it does not separate them into discrete layers.
Had a global flood occurred, what we would see is a mixture of sand, mud
and plant fragments all mixed together.
It is interesting to note that in an abandoned mine near Price, Utah in late
Cretaceous rocks, there are dinosaur footprints at the top of the coal seam.
Having dinosaur footprints, eggs, and nests in the middle of Noah's flood
is very difficult to explain. For more information see
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/coalprints.html.
What About Tree Ring Dating?
Most young-earth creationists do not accept tree ring dating. Since they
claim the world is only 6,000 years old, you cannot have a tree dating back
8,000 years ago. However, Gerald Aardsma, formerly of the ICR, published
a paper in the Creation Research Society Quarterly, Vol. 29, March 1993,
p. 184-189, entitled "Tree-ring dating and multiple ring growth per year,"
in which he shows that there is no evidence for multiple rings per year,
and that current data show a correlation back to 11,000 ybp.
An important paper was published in "Science" v. 279, Feb. 20, 1998, p.
1187-90, "Atmospheric radiocarbon calibration to 45,000 yr B.P.: Late
glacial fluctuations and cosmogenic isotope production" by H. Kitagawa
and J. van der Plicht. They cored a lake in Japan that had varved
sediment on the bottom. The varves were counted back to 45,000 years bp
and the plant fragments in the sediment were analyzed for date by 14C.
Young-earth creationists have argued that neither 14C nor varves are
valid ways of determining dates. However, when we look at Figure 1 from
their paper, which has the number of varves along the x-axis and the 14C
dates along the y-axiz, we see a near-perfect correlation between the
two methods back to the limit of the 14C method. They match perfectly
with the tree-ring data, which are the green data points at the lower
end.
Population Statistics
Based on a two per cent population growth rate, Morris extrapolates back
that it only takes 1,100 years to reach the present population. This would
mean the earth is only 1,100 years old, but this is false. The growth rate
before 1650 was only .07 per cent (Hayward 1985, 136). For more information
see
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/debate-age-of-earth.html#growth.
Polystrate Trees
In spite of Morris heroic effort to reinterpret the Petrified Forest
of Yellowstone Park, the evidence is clear that a nearby volcano buried 27
forests on top of each other. Some of the trees have up to 400 rings. It
took about 20,000 years for this to form (Weber 1980, 28).
In Nova Scotia there is a similar buried forest of tree stumps. In the decayed
stumps were nests of animals. This shows there was a long time of decay and
then the stumps were used for nests. Noahs flood could not have done
this. For more information see website:
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/polystrate/trees.html.
Misused Laws of Thermodynamics
The Second Law of Thermodynamics has been misused by many creationists. They
assume that the earth is a closed system, but it is not. The sun is supplying
lots of energy. For detailed arguments about this see Frank Steigers
web site at
Http://members.home.net/fsteiger/creation.htm.
Radiometric Dating
Contrary to what Morris says, radiometric isotopes are the strongest indicators
that the earth is very old, unless you assume God is trying to fool us. All
the fast decaying isotopes are gone (Ross 1994, 95). If the earth was young,
they would still be here. Decay rates are constant even at extreme temperatures
of 2000 C or -186 C (Dalrymple 1982, 12).
Certain rocks like xenoliths can not be dated by K-Ar because of excess argon
which yields older dates (Ibid., 26). This is seen in the dating of the 1801
flow from Hualalei volcano in Hawaii. For more information see
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-meritt/age.html#k-ar.
Lunar rocks measured by conventional K-Ar can only measure the last
heating and impact event, but Ar40/Ar39 and Rb-Sr isochron dating both show
the moon to be about 4 billion years old. Most igneous moon rocks are basalt
like on earth. There are more similarities than differences. Because the
lead compositions of the earth, moon, and meteorites lie along the same isochron
gives "convincing evidence that planetary bodies, including the earth, all
formed about 4.55 billion years ago" (Ibid., 50; See article at
http://www.asa.calvin.edu/ASA/resources/Wiens.html).
For more information see the Affiliation of Christian Geologists' website
http://www.wheaton.edu/acg/.
The Bible Declares the Earth is Old!
Whatever the evidence may be, the Bible clearly states that the earth is
old! Habakkuk 3:6 states:
He stood, and measured the earth: he beheld, and drove asunder the nations;
and the everlasting mountains were scattered, the perpetual hills did bow:
his ways are everlasting.
Should not have Habakkuk said that the mountains and hills were formed during
Noahs flood? (Fischer 1996, 82).
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More Information
Aurthur N. Strahler's book Science and Earth history is an excellent book
covering all the major young-earth creationists arguments. Hayward's book
"Creation and Evolution," and Hugh Ross' book "Creation and Time" are very
good. For more information about other books and links click here at
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/rossuk/AgeEarth.htm.
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